
Area recreational, commercial fishing gill nets causing havoc along North Carolina's shore?
By Kent King, correspondent
Rocky Mount Telegram
Saturday, September 20, 2008
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The summer day was typical for late June on the sound. The morning started fair and quite warm. The seagulls were busy in the shallows, picking off wayward minnows for an easy breakfast.
Puffy clouds lazily floated by as the fishermen worked the Haystacks near Morehead City for speckled trout, flounder and puppy drum. As the tide began to rise, the minnows formed tighter schools. Larger fish were present in deeper channels, chasing them into the flats. It was fun to watch.
As the morning wore on, those harmless clouds began to gather. A classic Carteret County thunderstorm was building on the western horizon; it was time to pull the anchor. In just a few short minutes the storm formed an anvil head, and rotation was visible. The sound turned a mean shade of green. The fishermen left the Haystacks in a hurry, barely loading all the gear into the truck before the bottom fell out.
Sometimes these storms last for minutes, other times they last for days. Little did the fishermen know at the time, a storm of a different kind was building on these same waters.
Conflicts of Interest
For many years the commercial and recreational fishermen have stormed at each other. Even though the waters are vast and the targeted species seem plentiful, there are still differences of opinion based on economic and lifestyle issues.
Some of these conflicts produce brief squalls and pass very quickly. Others are more deep-rooted, and much like the storm that ran the fishermen out of the sound, may rain for generations. As long as two distinct user groups fish the same water for very different reasons, there will always be the likelihood of disagreements.
Commercial fishermen toil the waters of the sound to make a living off what they are able to catch in their nets. The catch feeds the family and pays the bills. They are at the mercy of the elements. The tides, moon phases, scorching summer sun and bone-chilling winter winds all play a part in what they can put in the bank.
Recreational fishermen have every right to fish these same sounds, bays and creeks. This larger group of fishermen enjoys being on the water, catching whatever they can with a rod and reel. They fish because their grandfathers taught them how much fun a day on the water can be even if the fish don’t bite. For some it is also a vocation, guiding eager fishermen willing to pay the price for an experienced captain who can put them on fish.
The Latest Storm
For the past several years, guides and recreational fishermen have become increasingly angry at the tactics of some commercial fishermen who they say set gill nets in prime red drum habitat to get even with the growing number of guides and weekend anglers who want to ban gill nets.
The recreational guides say the commercial fishermen see their clients “hooked up” fighting red drum on certain areas of the sound. The next day or even later that same day, flounder nets are stretched out to cover the entire area wiping out the drum. And it’s totally legal.
Swansboro guide Rick Patterson said, “I’ve had guys look me in the eye and say they’re going to kill every drum they can. I have no idea what they want to accomplish, but it’s a twisted mentality.”
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==================================== Additional background on NC Gillnetting
Net catch results in net waste
Mike Zlotnicki, Staff Writer Comment on this story
When Gordon Churchill went drum fishing two weeks ago, he expected to catch something in the Bogue Sound.
"I was just going out to catch some fish," he said from his home in Newport. "I didn't catch anything."
In a way, though, he did.
He "caught" about 28 drum and bluefish and two undersized flounder.
He caught them on video, rotting in an unattended gill net set for flounder near Morehead City.
"I was in the Haystacks, poling around and went down a narrow creek, and this mud flat barricaded the creek I was trying to get to," he said. "I looked up and saw the net. My first thought was revulsion. Then I thought I better do something about it."
That's when he dropped his push pole, grabbed his video camera and recorded the waste.
He and other anglers are saying that this is one of the worst years they've seen for gill netting in their area, and they fear the nets are taking a heavy toll on game fish, particularly red drum.
Churchill, 42, a physical education teacher and coach at Morehead City Middle School, has long been an opponent of entanglement (gill) nets in sound waters.
The issue of netting in the sound pits a minority of commercial gill netfisherman against a majority of recreational hook-and-line fishermen, each with a stake in the fish. Commercial fishermen, many of whom are part-timers, are trying to make money. Recreational fishermen, who fish for fun, decry the "bycatch" (non-targeted species caught) that sometimes results from the use of gill nets. Throw in the fact that recreational anglers also can be licensed to use gill nets, and you have trouble in the sound.
The problem with gill nets is that they catch indiscriminately, and what netters can't legally keep is returned to the water -- alive or dead. The dead bycatch is the bane of recreational anglers and guides. Churchill and other anglers say they fear the impact on coastal fish stocks. Professional guides -- also commercial anglers of a sort -- need sport fish for revenue.
Using Churchill's video to identify the net owner, Marine Patrol officer Mitch Stone, with the Division of Marine Fisheries, cited Virginia Dare Fulcher Oglesby of Morehead City for using a gill net without proper buoys or identification. The buoys were not the right color, and they were marked by outdated registration numbers, according to a DMF news release.
Oglesby also was cited with "leaving a gill net in coastal fishing waters when such devices contained edible species of fish unfit for human consumption."
Efforts to contact Olglesby for comment were unsuccessful.
The citation carried a fine of $35 and court costs of $110.
Churchill isn't the only angler fed up with nets. Rick Patterson, 36, a part-time guide from Cape Carteret, says he thinks they're hurting the red drum.
" 'Problem' ain't the word for it," he said. "Last year was a banner year for redfish in the Newport River. Last year, I could go out with a client for four hours and average 15 or 20 redfish. This year, it's four to six."
Patterson said he doesn't see many recreational nets, almost all commercial nets. He also cited three factors for the increased netting in Bogue Sound and surrounding areas: poor blue crab catches, higher flounder prices and a regulation that requires recreational fishermen to tend gill nets at all times south of Carteret County to the South Carolina line.
Although red drum are incidental bycatch, flounder netters are allowed to keep seven drum per trip if the amount doesn't exceed 50 percent of the trip poundage. The rest go back dead or alive. The recreational limit on drum is one fish per day 18 to 27 inches long.
"Our backwaters are not big enough to sustain this kind of netting," Patterson said.
On June 29, Patterson took Chris Batsavage, lead fisheries biologist for southern flounder from the N.C. Division of Marine Fisheries, out on a scouting trip.
"It appears this year there's a little more effort to net southern flounder than in recent years," Batsavage said after his cruise with Patterson and fellow guide Jeff Cronk. "We basically went from Stella to Swansboro, Queens Creek, Hammocks Beach Channel, Bogue Inlet and western Bogue Sound. We counted a total of 40 nets from 50 to 100 yards long."
Patterson has seen even more.
"If [Batsavage] had ridden with us last month, we would have seen 40 in the White Oak River alone," Patterson said the Monday after the biologist's trip. "I took some clients out for a six-hour trip on Sunday. We caught one red."
Assessing the magnitude of the nets is very difficult, but "with the smaller bodies of water, there is a possibility of red drum bycatch," said Batsavage, who added that none of the nets seen Thursday evening was a recreational net.
Glen Montgomery, a commercial flounder netter from Straits, near Beaufort, said there are lot of nets this year for a variety of reasons.
"I'm amazed at the number of them this year," Montgomery, 60, said from his home. "There are too many nets in the water this year. Prices are higher for flounder, and the shrimp and hard crab [catches] have been off.
"I have nothing against a recreational netter. They have as much right to catch fish as I do. I hate to see a few violators ruin it for everyone. Gill nets can be very dangerous in the wrong hands. I'm glad [Churchill] did what he did."
Montgomery said different types of netters are on the water, some serious, others not so serious.
"A part-timer is someone who fishes when the fishing is good," he said. "You also have weekenders -- dingbatters -- who come down and stay in their cottages. They will cough up $2,000 for a commercial license and catch a cooler full of fish. I'm seeing a lot more of that than the rec nets."
He said bycatch is a concern but that not all of it is bad.
"Even rod-and-reel fishermen have bycatch," he said. "I target flounder, but I make extra money selling conch and stone crab in season. The red drum is the 'meat fish' for the recreational guides. I guess they see us as competition. As they [red drum] rebound, there will be be more drum caught in the nets."
Churchill, who guides occasionally, makes no bones about his anti-net stance.
"The first step is CCA [Coastal Conservation Association] or some other large organization needs to jump on it," he said. "Every time I brought this up at meetings, they talked around it; they were afraid of it. If you fish in a state with no gill nets, it's amazing how many more fish they have."
Gill nets are efficient and indiscriminate fish-catching devices. Why not take them out of the hands of amateurs -- recreational anglers and part-timers -- while looking to lessen the bycatch of full-time commercial netters? Perhaps state-wide mandatory attendance would reduce the number of part-timers and save drum and other bycatch. Maybe gigs and hook-and-line -- more selective and less efficient methods -- are the answer. One result would be higher-priced flounder at the market.
The issue doesn't have to be commercial versus recreational. The fish are what matter to each side. Let's quit throwing them away.
Staff writer Mike Zlotnicki can be reached at 829-4518 or mike.zlotnicki@newsobserver.com.
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NET BASICS
Gill netting in North Carolina for commercial and recreational netters is tightly regulated.
RECREATIONAL NETS: Recreational nets have two yellow buoys and one pink buoy at each end and a maximum length of 100 yards. The user must be in a vessel, in the water or on shore and immediately available to work the net and no more than 100 yards from the net at all times (not in a building or structure.)
ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT: North and east of the Emerald Isle (N.C. 58) bridge in Carteret County, attendance of gill nets less than 5 1/2 inches stretched mesh (small mesh) is required at all times. Attendance of gill nets 5 1/2 inches stretched mesh or greater is required from one hour after sunrise to one hour before sunset. South and west of the N.C. 58 bridge to the South Carolina line, attendance of recreational gill nets is required at all times. Commercial nets do not have to be attended.
DAY OR NIGHT: Commercial netters north of N.C. 58 can set flounder nets left unattended day or night. Small mesh commercial nets must be attended unless they are 200 yards from shore. Recreational gill nets may be unattended at night but must be attended during the day. Small-mesh nets must be attended at all times. Various locales have different regulations.
REASONS FOR RULES: "It's based on the different species present, the way the gear is used, and the time of the year," said Mike Marshall, an N.C. Division of Marine Fisheries biologist. "There's a whole suite of reasons that go into it. You kind of segregate your rules by the mesh size, species, depth and time of the year."
WHY FULL-TIME RECREATIONAL ATTENDANCE SOUTH OF 58?: "The majority of the fishing is in smaller bodies of water like the Intracoastal Waterway and rivers," Sgt. Tim L. Mitchell of the N.C. Marine Patrol said.
REPORT VIOLATIONS: Marine Patrol (800) 682-2632







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